Saturday, January 30, 2010

Nimrod's Return...?


I've had a number of conversations over the last few months that have been deeply political but what a number of folks don't seem to realize is that underneath political discussions are more profound philosophical discussions. And these philosophical questions have profound theological implications in my mind. When we discuss policies...we must face the fact that there are philosophies that undergird those policies.

For a follower of Jesus, the philosophies of this world and the principalities and powers that animate and propagate those philosophies..are our main combatants. It is these entities and ideologies that we are called to wrestle with.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. -Ephesians 6:12

The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. -2 Corinthians 10:4-5

In this ongoing discussion and wrestle, i've mentioned, quoted and referenced material that looks at the issues of government, politics and the human and religious struggle to find one's proper balance in this being in the world and yet, not of it. It's surprised me that many of my fundamentalist christians or right-minded political friends seem to embrace a faith that is comfortably wedded to the state, especially when it revolves around issues of the military and the subjects related to war.

This is a posture that to me, seems to undermine the very revolutionary principles that were at play in the founding of America. I seem to see a unhealthy fraternizing that goes on with the very powers that have grown so monolithic; as to overshadow the very nation that we fought our independence with. The inability to see clearly the beast that is growing, alarms me. And what frightens me more, is the wedded nature of faith and violence that seems to be generally embraced or accepted by most christians.

The idea that power is what is needed in this era, in order to dismantle, protect or achieve victory against our enemies; seems to be a precarious posture to embrace...especially since the machine that is achieving such victory is growing bigger and bigger and more and more in control of the very ones it says it is protecting.

Doesn't that dual accomplishment seem machiavellian to anyone else than my little old self?

"The struggle against terrorism and totalitarianism is ultimately a war of ideas, to be fought in our minds." -Ayn Rand

I read this article today and found some really profound points within it, too many to post...so I will simply link to it...in hopes that more hungry minds will take the time to read and ponder it:

Faith & Force by Ayn Rand

These principles are part and parcel of our political history...you can hear the same content in this short clip from a speech by Ronald Reagan:


You can see all of these ideas being explored in this video from Glen Beck's program; which are still true issues, whether or not you agree with Glen or not...personally I find him annoying most of the time, if not hysterical...but his accuracy in pinpointing many of the cultural battles, is still poignant:


I simply believe that people are giving over their souls, minds, allegiance, money and more and more...their very lives or their children's lives to the state...or to be more biblical...to the kingdoms of men.

"Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect." -Romans 12:2

This ailment is an action that has been rooted in first ones giving over their God given mind. We are increasingly being more and more conformed to the patterns of this world. We are being lulled to sleep by convenience, materialism, protectionism and socialism...but not in a purely political manner...but also in a religious one. We are embracing the Americanization of Christianity....in much the same way Middle Easterners have wed faith and state in Islam.

I see hints and shout of this in songs like this: Born Again American and in paintings like this one: One Nation Under God.

Soon one is not free enough to question such Allegiance and the pressure as a pastor to bow to the idol of cultural christianity is becoming more and more profound. I cant seem to find many that seem to serious about the gospel the Jesus preached and the kingdom He told us to pray down to earth and live out ethically and morally. In the end, I have been more challenged on issues of Cultural Christianity than I have ever have on any other topic. This posture towards the state, mingled with good old patriotism has grown into a golden statue that soon will require all to lay prostrate before it.

I sit and ponder the biblical stories of Nimrod and his heaven touching tower and warlike nation capturing triumphalism and wonder if my evangelical, prophesy prone brothers and sisters and their "Anti-Christ" bogey man of apocalyptic literature isn't actually gearing up for a grand unveiling.

If ever there was a desperate need for thinking, gospel rooted believers...it is now.

8 comments:

Jim Wehde said...

Eric -

This is SPOT ON, and where I have been in my walk for the past decade or so.

Ever dove into any Jacques Ellul? There is quite a conversation waiting to happen here. Hope more join in!

Jim in Spokane

Unknown said...

Jim, glad some of this resonates with you...and god to know theres more folks out ahead of the pack too.

I have not read any of Elul, yet....but I've got my sights on "Anarchy and Christianity".

Unknown said...

Here's Greg Boyd's take on the painting linked to above in the article:

http://www.gregboyd.org/blog/painted-idolatry-one-nation-under-god/

My purpose in the highlighting these topics isn't to say that I would prefer a Godless society or a churchless state...Im not espousing an absence of God.

Im wrestling with the issues that seem to arise when state and faith mix. Not saying that a Judeo-Christian underpinning regarding law and morality isn't a good thing...I think it is....I think?

Sometimes these issues start sounding like I think faithless is better than faith. Im not saying that.

But, Im unconvinced the actuality of the 'founding fathers' posture as its is presented by different voices. It seems there is a bit of historical revisionism going on in both camps.

Im starting to see a broader issue of Kingdom though that extends outside and beyond the narrow lens of 'God & America" thinking.

Which wades into a lot of touchy ground.

Unknown said...

Oh, and as for more dialogue on these issues...we will see. Im getting the "pastors shouldn't talk politics" vibe from some. There is seems to be a pretty good 'gag order" on these types of things in our culture.

For me that church and state idea is rarely upheld in practical thinking....its espoused in a judicial sense but practically speaking...its void in most everyday life convos. If I had a dollar for every time, I heard a sermon or song about "putting God back in America" or "prayer back in schools" etc...I would be a rich man.

Jim Wehde said...

"My purpose in the highlighting these topics isn't to say that I would prefer a Godless society or a churchless state...Im not espousing an absence of God."

Heavens, no! But it seems as if the example of how Jesus interacted with the world has been forgotten, and many believers have gone back to the perspectives of the Zealots ("Take our country back") and the other parties of Jesus' time...which Jesus eschewed.

"Im getting the "pastors shouldn't talk politics" vibe from some."

My brother usually hears that when he's making people rightfully uncomfortable...I'll be praying through that one with you. No room for a prophet in THIS home town, right?

Jim Wehde said...

BTW Eric -

Strong recommend on The Subversion of Christianity and The Meaning of the City.

Jim

Unknown said...

Oh and by the way, I didnt mean to insinuate that you possibly were saying that...Im trying to address comments before comments...trying to head things off at the pass. ;)

It's a difficult thing to unfold...to often people what to get to the yoke or the bud...and are not patient to remove things in proper order and pace.

These thughts and subjects are deep organs in the life of our communal expereince..we cant just rip them open and jam our hands in to feel around without doing more damage than good.

As a pastor...that process is critical to me...I am seeking to help people both "see and do" the kingdom and that's a important process for regular folks to journey towards. Young radicals can often set the house on fire and enjoy watching it burn and not really care if anyone inside gets out...because to them, they only see the structures.

Where a more present person, often one older...sees the people inside too. The house may need to burn...but the people need to be convinced to get out first.

Jim Wehde said...

Exactly...a lesson learned hard and well in 15 years in the House Church movement. We wanted to be relational, not Institutional, so we wrote off anything that was bigger than a few people, and railed about how God could not go there.

Except God goes where ever He wants, of course. Yes, He wants people to stop trusting in human systems, but organic thinking means He will be in charge of the heart changes.

Beautiful thoughts, Eric.